Korean War Project Scum Of The Earth

Comments: Mr. Smith:

I gave you some good advice: Not to write me. Some folks seem to enjoy pain, so I will most certainly give you some of what you so clearly desire.

First, I haven't seen any evidence of an apology to Mr. Barbee, a stranger to you, who you repeatedly insulted in emails he did not want. Where is it?

You talk about your friends the Barker brothers, and with the highest regard for them. That is certainly your right.

So since you persist in pushing them, let me ask you a question or few.

1. Why do the Barker brothers persist in their efforts to back with cash and a biiiiiiiig mailing list in the multiyear attacks on our organization?

2. Why do they and you support Coon & Pappas & Kronenburger, who were expelled in disgrace, about which there was and still is plenty of documentation to support the KWVA's LEGAL disciplinary actions?

3. Considering the avowed purpose of the 'Dickerson Slate for 2008,' who can explain your loyalty to the cause of the destruction of the KWVA, since you seem to be so proud of your part in the beginning, whatever that was (I haven't heard anything specific from you on that)? You did attend some memorial celebrations. Congratulations on that.

4. Why are the Barkers making it so personal? They are NOT QUALIFIED OT ENTITLED TO BE KWVA memmbers, and they never will be. So why are they in this fight? You should also know that there is some dispute and disagreement(and documentation)about their role in contributions to memorials.

The Barkers, on the other hand, have an organization of their own that could use an influx of cash, I say that because whenever they are afraid they might be sued, they declare & whine they will go bankrupt. I know it's speculation, Mr. Smith, but think of the math: 17,600 members X $25.00 per year. Got it, Mr. Smith? So if they get all uppity and outraged when you pass this on them, as I'm sure you will, you and they should just remember that one of them served in England; and if I have it right the other has never even been in the service. So both my questions and my speculation on a possible motive are fueled by simple logic & reasoning. Excuse me if I don't seriously consider their motives are because of some noble devotion to Korean veterans, especially when you consider the record of the companions they keep, and the actions they have committed.

You seem to assume that because you were there at the beginnings of the KWVA, that gives you some right to speak for the organization, with a higher standing than other members. You only have what I have: One lifetime membership card with dues paid, and one vote in any national election. THAT IS ALL.

Listen to me sir. You have an unseemly record of arguing with people who know more about the subjects about which you pick a fight.

You assailed Lee Dauster about the insurance. You may not know that insurance has been his profession. You argued with Robert Banker about the way he handled his job, my guess is you don't know anything about his skills, or what his job entailed, either. That is a bad habit, Mr. Smith, that is to be ignorant of the facts you dispute.

Give it up sir. You are beginning to really piss me off. My Mother was Dutch, and my Father was Swedish, and persistence is my long suit by both inheritance and choice. I will hang in there with sharper and sharper questions than in this email, and sooner or later, you will have to give it up, that is unless it is impossible for you to inflict too much humiliiation on yourself.

That skill was sharpened by teaching Traffic Violator School for over six years, and each week I encountered better arguments from my students than any of yours, at least so far.

What that means, sir, is that you can count on me not to give up in the defense of what I believe, or myself personally. I may even go to Dallas to see if your word is as good as your mouth is loud.

Remember, I speak here only as a KWVA member and a U.S. Citizen. I am not an officer of the KWVA, and I only speak for myself, althoughI believe there will be a few members who think as I do, and will approve of what I have said here.

So, give it your best shot, Mr. Smith. It's for certain I haven't seen it yet.

George E. Lawhon LR18750 600 E Weddell Drive 91 Sunnyvale, CA 94089 408-734-0305 george@lawhon.org

Keywords: Korean War Veterans Association

I Was There From 52-53

Comments: Would like to attend a reunion

Keywords: Red from Oceanside California

AIr Police of the 502nd TCG Korea

Comments: Gentelmen I am looking for Air Police that served in Korea with the 502nd TCG from 1952 to1953 Thank You Kenneth W Cage

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USAF 1948-1952

Comments: Lost contact with buddies in Korea: Raymond Sosa, Wm. Knipstein, or anyone from Otis AFB. Also, anyone from Bossier Base (Barksdale)or any MP's from Ist Army, 1117th ASU. Anyone from any squadron, Otis AFB 1948-1951.

Keywords: OAFB/Camp Edwards-Falmouth Mass.

Early part of the Korean War

Comments: It was the middle of July 1950, three weeks after North Korea launched an unprovoked full-scale invasion into South Korea as I, a member of the 605th Tactical Control Squadron stationed at Pope Air Force Base near Fayetteville, NC was at home at the time enjoying two week leave. Just two days into my furlough, a telegram arrived at my door informing me to return to the base immediately which I quickly complied to. Arriving at the base the following day, official orders were handed to me with instructions to pack my belongings in a duffle bag and be prepared to depart by plane the next day headed for the west coast. My rank at this time was Staff Sgt.. Four other non- commissioned officers as well as three commissioned officers from my outfit received the same orders. The plane arrived on time carrying us across the country ending up in California. Boarding another plane, we learned enroute, we were an advanced party headed to South Korea via Japan. In Japan,our seven man Advanced Party was squeezed into the cargo section of an old C-47 cargo plane loaded to capacity with dozens of 55 gallon drums of gasoline, boxes of hand grenades, 45 caliber machine guns, dozens of large boxes of bullets etc. The only other occupants of the plane were the pilot and co-pilot whose orders were to land at an airfield called K-2 just outside the city of Taegu which lies between Seoul, the South Korean capitol, and Pusan, the second largest city located at the southernmost tip of the peninsula. As the plane approached K-2, the pilot contacted the tower, asking for required landing instructions. The tower operator answered the pilot's call by saying "You cannot land here at k-2 as fighting is now going on at the landing field". He further said" Return to Pusan, contact the K-1 tower operator ." At this early stage of the war, the North Korean army had driven the allied forces to a small area of land called " The Pusan Perimeter" Only two airfields at this time were still in possession by our forces, K-1 and K-2. A short time later heading back toward Pusan , our pilot had gotten permission to land at K-1. On our approach as we were nearing a touchdown while looking a window, all I could see was a bumpy corrugated metal strip before us! As the planes wheels made contact , the plane kept bouncing up and down four or five times before it came to a full stop! As soon as the side doors opened, a barrage of large bursts of artillery fire could be heard in the background. This was the first time since leaving North Carolina I realized this war was for real! Our entire outfit, the 605th Tactical Control Squadron arrived in Korea early in September . Our armies with re-enforcements, held the Peninsula prior to the time of their arrival followed by a quick offensive drive, pushing the North Korean army back far northward. Our squadron's main function was to direct aircraft to and from their targets by means of air- to -ground communications. In a Quonset hut we erect a huge plotting board table mapping the entire war area. In this case the countries of North and South Korea. Headsets are connected to the table where plotting operators have immediate contact with all aircraft within a 150 mile radius. Every aircraft within that range is plotted on the map. All air combat missions must report to the control center before and after each strike or mission. My part in our unit was to erect and maintain very high frequency radio sites using 90 ' high steel antennas. Each antennae uses a separate channel. After installation we remoted these channels by cable to the plotting table at the control center. All military aircraft are tuned to the same frequencies as at the plotting table thus allowing two way communication air to ground ! As we moved up the peninsula, we set up our first successful operation near the city of Taegu . In doing so , our air power was quite instrumental in aiding our ground troops who after a short period of time continued to advance forward. Shortly after our ground troops captured Seoul, with our original Control Center in operation, about half our outfit packed up our equipment then headed northward toward the South Korean capitol in order to set up another site within the city. Half way between Taegu and Seoul, traveling on the main road cut through a valley which cropped rice paddies, hundreds of North Korean soldiers bodies were strewn both sides of the road. We later heard a battle was fought there only four days earlier! In a convoy along the way on this busy, narrow ,dirt highway, convoys of vehicles were headed in both directions. It was so crowded with vehicles that at times some headed in one direction had to stop temporarily to allow others headed in the opposite direction to pass by. On one occasion, while stopped, a truck headed in the opposite direction loaded with North Korean prisoners had also stopped beside me.Both vehicles were about two feet apart. As I looked up, one of the prisoners spat at me. An MP guarding the prisoners on the truck observing this incident, with the butt of his gun slammed into the face of the prisoner who immediately fell to the floor of the truck ! Arriving in Seoul, we set up a new Control Center at Seoul University which was in shambles at this time. Our VHF site was located on a mountain not too far from the University. We had sand-bagged trenches dug around our compound which came in handy as for a period of time the air-raid siren would go off as we scrambled into the trenches. This happened about 3 o'clock in the morning without fail! We found out the enemy used this tactic as a means to basically harass us. We called this plane " Bed-Check-Charlie" Each night as the siren went off at 3 AM, someone would say " Here comes Bed-Check-Charlie." After the Inchon landing in September, Gen. Macarthur send our ground forces far north into North Korea near the Chosin Reservoir. During the latter part of October 1950, we loaded enough equipment to set a new Tactical Control Center in the North Korean capitol of Pyongyang. Arriving in Pyongyang wearing parkas on a bitter cold day, I recall going to a brick building where books were strewed all over the rooms. Opening some of them, I noticed most were written in the Korean language also many were written in Russian. Some books had a portrait of Stalin on the inside cover, as well. This building was used for propaganda purposes. On one side of the same building a picture of Uncle Sam was portrayed with his hands grabbing the Korean peninsula! After being honorably discharged from the service, Lo and behold !This same scene was on the front cover of Time Magazine ! At this time , the Chinese with their masses came storming over the border! We then without unpacking our equipment, in a convoy hurriedly headed back to Seoul over miles and miles of narrow, winding dusty mountain roads. These are some of the memories I cannot ever forget. My Korean War service was from July 1950 through September 1951

Keywords: Jew Boy....Friends..Melvin Daniel,Jim Pfeffer,Harold Mitchell,William Craig

Looking for information

Comments: I am the son of Captain Ben E. Clark who served as the Operations Officer and communications Officer in Korea 1952 - 1953 with the 605th. Any information anyone might have would be greatly apreciated. Allen

Keywords: 605th Tac con sq seoul

605th TCS Vehicle Maint

Comments: Looking for Members of Vehicle Maint 605th TCS 48-52 rscott76 Earthlink.net

Keywords: Lackland, Greenville AFB, Pope AFB, Pusan, Tageau,Seoul Pyongyang Korea Vehicle Maint

605th Vehicle Maintenace

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605thTAC/plotting

Comments: March 1948 S.A. Texas May 1948 Greenville AFB SC September 1948/1949 Berlin Airlift, Germany March 1949 Pope AFB September 1950/March 1952 Korea Discharge S F, Ca. March 4th 1952 Returned home, Lancaster County, Pa.

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reunions

Comments: 1948/1952 Greenville AFB, SC 1948 Pope AFB, NC 1949 Berlin Air Lift 1949 Pope AFB, NC 1950 Korea (Sept) 1950/1952 Discharge (March) 1952

Keywords: eddie Control Ctn EJ Lorence, Frank Zulacia, Francis Cooper, Donald Troutman,

605th TCS, Motor Pool 48-52

Comments: Roster of 605th TCS

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Located Floyd Addison

Comments: I hope Floyd is the one you are looking for. Regards Richard Scott MSgt USAF Ret

Keywords: I think Floyd Addison is listed in the roster of the 605th TCS, Living in Michigan

Comments: volenteard to go to Korea when the war started on or about June 26, 1950 was in Korea, July or August. Was station on a hill in PUSON till McArthur landed on Inchon,was station in Kaysong,Tague,Kimpo,Seoul ETC. Last duty was on a mountan overlooking Kimpo AFB. Stayed there 12months it was a DF operations site, when a plane was in trouble they sent a single and it was picked up, by our DF sites around the country and the sites sent us their bearing and we would get a tyangle fix(3 angles) then give him a heading to a safe area. I spent over 19 months in Korea and was supposed to get discharge April 13 1951 after my 3 yr hitch was up.Truman gave me 1 extra year, so didn't get disgharge till June 1952, from a 3 year enlistment i served 4yrs 3mo. When I got back to the states I had 110 days coming, they payed me for all but 20 days. They said I should have taking the time off,how could we take it off when no leaves were granted.

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605 606 TAC Recon Sq

Comments: Left Georiga 15 days after the war started and went on a secret mission called "BLACK JACK" laanded on an island off the coast of Korea. Mission was to set up a RADAR STATION. Then on to Korea after 2 or 3 weeks landed in Puson.Mc Arthur told us there will be no Dunkurt here. Spent 19 months 19 days over there. Last 12 months spent on a mountain over looking Kimpo AFB We were a DF site. Was discharge June 26, 1952 from Olmsted AFB, Pa.

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looking fr buddies

Comments: SHIPPED TO kOREA Aug.51-Aug.52, USS Gen Mann to Yokahama, Flew to Kimpo Air Base, assigned to 605 Tac con Sqdn.Seoul. Duties Mess Sgt./ Also stationed on Radar detachment on Island in yellow sea. Hard to remember correct name of island, but I believe was Tok-quon-do. Looking for old buddies stationed there during the same period, Can't remember first names, Jones Boys, twins from Oklahoma.Joe moon from Stony Creek, N.Y., Griffin from North Carolina,Wilkerson,North Carolina.

Would like to hear from anyone stationed there during the sa period.

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1950-52

Comments: Great site. Just hope more see and sign up. Best regards, MSgt Richard Scott USAF Ret 68

Keywords: Searching for Sgt Kamphause 48-52 Searching for Sgt Horton 48-52 Any members that started up the 605th at Greenville AFB, Pope AFB, Korea 50-52

605 Tac Con Squadron

Comments: Just returned from 502 TCS reunion at San Antonio,TX. Great time visiting folks from my squadron. My wife enjoyed it also.

Keywords: 605th TCS

like to hear from old buddy's

Comments: I would like to know if others had their battle star's taking away when the got to Japan?

Keywords: I would like to hear from buddy's that where there at the same time that I was their.

Korea, 1956

Comments: I was stationed at K55, Osan ni Korea from Jan to Dec. 1956. Would like to contact anyone one who was there at that time, especially those on "C" Crew and especially Bob Etheridge or Carroll Harmeyer. There was a sign in front of the COs office that had the 605th logo on it. Does anyone have a clear color photo of the squadron emblem? My wife would like to do a counted cross stitch of it for me. I am originally from Detroit and my service time was 3/53 to 1/57.

Keywords: 605th TCS, Charlie Crew

605 Tactical Control Squadron Web Site

Comments: A web site has been put up for members of the 605 Tactical Control Squadron at: http://www.geocities.com/tacticalcontrolsquadron605

Keywords: 605 Tactical Control Squadron, 502 Tactical Control Squadron, USAF, Korea,

History of the 605th

Comments: Iwould like to know of the the history of the 605th. I was with the 605th @ Clark AFB from 12/59-6/61. Iheard stories about the 605th in Korea, however, i would like to find asource tha thas the facts of the 605th's history. We were told that in Korea the 605th had buried their cables for the Radar operation and they were frozen in the ground and when it was time to move out they got overrun because of the time it took in attemting to get the cables up. We were told that is why it became the policy to never bury cales. True or not, I don't know, but I would like to hear the facts. Thanks

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605th, 1952-1953

Comments: Except for a minor guerilla incident which didn't involve me, and the loss of one man on detached air ground support duty, we were out of harm's way. The winters were brutal, however, even for a Minnesota kid. Didn't have a sleeping bag or winter clothing, except for what I bought on the Korean black market and received from home. Came to Korea from Ft.Mac arthur, California (669th AC&W Sqdn.) and was discharged the day after I arrived in San Francisco on the General Mann (no joy ride, for sure). I was five months past my enlistment term. On the way to Korea, I was on the USNS Gordon,landing at Yokohama and then flying on a C-124 to Seoul. Would like to correspond with anyone in the 605th who was in the unit during my time there.

Keywords: Located in Seoul,March 52-January 53. Staff Sergeant,radio maintenance at Seoul Stadium. Remember a few guys: Major Hutter, Jim Soapes, Kevin Viverette, Sandy Sanderson, Chuck Geise, Jess Edwards, Jess Campbell, Dave Kaufman, Ron Spearing, Richard Aldrich, Earman Sneed, Michael Drennan, Lloyd Medlock, Jim Zavies, Lee Miller.

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KOREA 1954

Comments: Was assigned to a radio relay site in the Yellow Sea ,west of Inchon on an island called "Tock-Chok-Kun-Do" (spelling is questionable). Some of the airmen I can remember were: Lt. Bland Fife Powell Buckhouse Stanely Ncoic Palovic Manganelli Knight Houseboy: Moon The above spellings might not be correct as my memory had a difficult time remembering all those that served with me at that time. We shared the island mountain top with an Army detachment, who also provided for our needs.

Keywords: Hill 180 K-55 Osan,