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Current Message 1 - July 22, 2007
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Entry: 61700
25th Machine Records Unit

Hunting GI

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Joseph Richardson wrote on 2007-07-22 13:54:43.0

Comments: Just found this site. I am trying to locate a GI who was in the 25th MRU--name of Prosser. Cannot remember first name. Do remember nickname of "Punchy." Have some important info for him.

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Current Message 2 - May 10, 2005
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Entry: 50730
25th Machine Records Unit

Looking for historical information

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Mike Province wrote on 2005-05-10 00:00:00.0

Comments: I need stories, pictures, manuals, etc. to create a book and an online history of IBM punch card systems used by the U.S. Army in mobile MRUs.

Mike

Keywords: punch card tab machine records unit

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Current Message 3 - March 22, 2005
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Entry: 49712
25th Machine Records Unit

Where is everybody??

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Jim McNulty wrote on 2005-03-22 00:00:00.0

Comments: Anybody left out there at my advanced age and having a computer so that they know this site is available for trying to get in touch with memories of more than 50 years ago?? Totally lost contact with just about everybody that I was with in those years, but never forgot the experience of knowing such a collection of great guys. Paul Huggins, Simmy Watson , Doug Shaw, Pete McNeill, Joe Bones, Tom Magill, Harry Trausenecker, George Merson, etc., etc. it could go on for pages. Have many photographs which most of you would probably want to avoid looking at (I try not to, also.) Anybody there who remembers me or any of the names I've mentioned???

Keywords: 108th M.R.U. Governor's Island May, 1949-Oct. 1950 4th M.R.U. Tokyo GHQ Nov. 1950-Oct. 1951 96th M.R.U. Ditto Ditto 25th M.R.U. 8th Army Hq, Taegu Oct 1951-June 1952

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Current Message 4 - November 7, 2004
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Entry: 46705
25th Machine Records Unit

Korean war MRU's

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Wallace F. Smith wrote on 2004-11-07 16:28:24.0

Comments: Veterans History Project solicited my record, then said it was "unsuitable" and suppressed it. I can send you a copy if you get in touch.

Keywords: Fort Dix, Tokyo, Sgt Woodford, MSTS, MP, Decorations and Awards

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Current Message 5 - July 30, 2001
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Entry: 18365
25th Machine Records Unit

Requesting info about fathers exp. in Korea.

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Richard Deitz wrote on 2001-07-30 22:08:48.0

Comments: When I was young ,I overheard my father speak about "porkchop-hill". He has never talked about his military experience with me.He told me he was like a clerk and that they're isn't much of a story.I've always dis-believed him. I know he was a "Staff Seargent",also he had medals and numerous patches,(something air-borne) a patch I think said 42nd division? Could you find out any info for me? His name is Richard Wilber Deitz from Bloomington,Illinois.His birthdate is 9/30/29. His father was Carl Deitz. Please reply, Thank-You, R.Deitz

Keywords: Army, Porkchop-hill, Air-Borne Division

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Current Message 6 - March 28, 2001
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Entry: 15663
25th Machine Records Unit

SFC Arthur Mc Millian

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Richard Mataisz wrote on 2001-03-28 12:15:47.0

Comments: Hello, My name is Richard and I'm looking for anyone that knew or served with my grandfather he was SFC Arthur Mc Millian Light Weapons Infantry Leader KIA July 15 1950 any help would be greatly appreciated THANKS to all that made this possible Please reply to this email address mtchief@earthlink.net thanks richard out

Keywords: Mac 32nd Inf Regt-7th Inf Div

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Current Message 7 - September 7, 2000
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Entry: 11550
25th Machine Records Unit

Member 25th MRU to DS Tokyo

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Paul O. Aikey wrote on 2000-09-07 16:36:52.0

Comments: I shipped out from Ft. McPherson, Gerogia on the orders FTMAG 370.5 Dated 1 September 1950. SUBJECT: Movement of Unit to Port of Embarkation.

I was assigned to the Second Platoon 1st Squad Leader Humble was in the same platoon. I know many of the ones on the original orders have passed away. I have a copy of the original orders that I found in my rat pack. I sent a copy of them to Rusty after the reunion at Myrtle Beach last year.

I shipped out before the unit moved on to Korea from Tokyo. I remained in the Army in Data Processing until I retired in 1967 as a M/Sgt.

I am now retired again and have a home here in Gerogia near the town where my wife grew up. I also have a home near the Pentagon in Wasghington DC. My address there is 5607 Tilia Ct. Burke, Va. 22015.

My memory is not great but I do remember some of the long days and nights we worked in Tokyo trying to get ready to take over from the 96th and alotho my memory for names is still bad I do remember many when I see them in the list. If any one else would like a copy of the original orders I would be glad to email them from the copy I made on my PC.

My email in GA is paikey@pcnow.net and the one in VA is duffer@netzero.net.

I play golf as much as possible (high handicap) and spend time on the computer playing stock games and keeping in touch with the family. We have a good golf course here in GA and it is not as expensive as most. It is in the boon docks (we all know where that is) but I really enjoy it.

Last years reunion was good and I hope many of you that are able will try to make it next year.

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Current Message 8 - November 8, 1999
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Entry: 4525
25th Machine Records Unit

4th & 25th M.R.U.

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Jim Davenport wrote on 1999-11-08 00:00:00.0

Comments: You two have done a fantastic job. It is a great site. A donation is on the way Jim

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Current Message 9 - June 27, 1999
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Entry: 3187
25th Machine Records Unit

Jerry Bryant - 4th and 25th MRU

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JERRY G. Bryant wrote on 1999-06-27 00:00:00.0

Comments: This site has allowed me to look up guys in my company who I went through basic training with at Fort Knox, Kentucky, Dec-1949 to Mar-1950 and to find out that ten of them were killed in the Korean War and nine others were wounded. It also led me to finding out more about a childhood friend who was captured, moved north on a train in North Korea in late 1950, told to get off the train at a tunnel to be fed, and instead the North Koreans started shooting our soldiers and killed everyone except my friend and two others. My friend was wounded up his right side and thought dead but American forces were driving north and came across the scene and he was saved. I was with him when he came home to West Virginia; his eyes were sunken in his head and he was not much more than skin and bones. He was one of the fortunate ones though; if you can call that fortunate.

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25th Machine Records Unit, HDQ FECOM.

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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998
Robert Humble Email address wrote:

25 Machine Records Unit

datein: 1949 dateout: 1970

comments:
Arrived at Yokohama on October 3, 1950.  Original destination was Pusan,
but the Inchon invasion changed the Army's plans.

The unit was split between a DS group with the 96th MRU in Tokyo and a
group sent on to Seoul to prepare for later location there.  After the
Chinese intervention the unit finally was brought together in Taegu.

The unit was engaged in strength accounting using card files and IBM
tabulating equipment.  Doesn't sound combative, and it wasn't, but it 
was a valuable service to the Army and to all us soldiers who hoped to 
go home someday.  I was with the unit from Ft. MacPherson to DS in Tokyo
(Finance Building) to Taegu and home in July 1952.

Activities

The IBM machines involved were:

The Keypunch.....operated from a typewriter like keyboard, punched the
little rectangular holes in the cards.

The Interpreter.....read the holes and printed out the information 
across the top of the cards.

The Sorter.....sorted decks of cards into alpha or numerical order.

The Reproducer.....reproduced cards in whole or in part and also could 
gang punch data into entire decks of cards.

The Collator.....merged 2 decks of cards to form one larger deck in the
same sequence.

The Tabulator.....did the calculating and printed out reports.

The machines we had were electro mechanical in their workings. They were
of WW II or early post war vintage.  The first electronic machines I saw
were sorters that showed up in Japan in late 1950 or early 1951. They
used vacuum tubes.  They were blazingly fast :-).  Or so it seemed then.

Graduates of the AGC Tabulating Machine School at Ft. Benjamin Harrison
or later at Camp Lee were assigned to the machine records units. There
they became either machine operators, MOS 0400 later 3400, or analysts 
0402 later 3402.  I was an analyst.

The input document for the files was the Morning Report.  The MRU is 
where the first copy of the Morning Report went.  Every unit every day 
submitted a Morning Report detailing whatever changes had taken place 
in the previous 24 hours in whatever elements of information the Army 
specified at a given time.  Gains, losses, promotions, demotions, 
casualties, changes in MOS, etc.

On receipt at the MRU the Morning Reports were coded to reflect whatever
change was of interest at the moment and sent to keypunch to be typed 
into what were called change cards. 

Coding was done in red pencil, it being said that red did not photograph
when the Morning Reports were finally put on microfilm.

The change cards then went to the analyst who matched the change card to
the individual's card in the unit file.  The matched pair were sent to 
the machine room where the change was incorporated into a new individual
card which was sent back to the analyst who refiled it in the unit file. 

At the end of each month and as of the last day of the month a roster 
was prepared, by machine, and sent to the unit.  The unit was supposed 
to review the roster for accuracy, make whatever corrections were 
necessary and return it to the MRU.  Any changes were then incorporated
into the individual cards.  

The information in the cards included name, rank, serial number, MOS, 
arm or service, perhaps ddzi (date departed zi) or deros (dated expected
return from OS), type of last change and date of last change.

Not much, compared to what you would expect today where I expect 
everything down to shoe size is in the computer. But, you can see the 
value of the information to the higher commands. Like, how many riflemen
in Company K of a given regiment, what rank are they, and how long 
before the go home. 

There were many other specialized reports on information of interest to
the commands.  Like casualty reports.  It should be understood that what
we were dealing with were statistics.  The soldiers actual records were,
of course, still maintained by his unit or another echelon of his 
command.

The Army as far as our operation was concerned did not care what a 
soldiers name was, but about where he was, what he did and so forth.

Some of the things that analysts did could have been done by machine.

However, it turned out that the analyst, while much slower, was much 
more accurate.  For example, if the name Smyth was misspelled as Smith 
the analyst would find it where the machine wouldn't.  Or if one or two
digits of a serial number were incorrect the analyst would still find 
the individual in the file.  

An analyst would handle files of several thousand cards. I, for example,
in Korea had the file for the 25th Infantry Division, the 5th Regimental
Combat Team, and the associated units.  Probably over 20000 cards.  

It was considered vital to get the month end rosters out at the end of 
the month.  When we arrived in Japan and began working in the 96th MRU 
they were more than a month behind in processing changes. We worked on 
the files that would go to Korea with the 25th MRU about 12 hours a day,
7 days a week, for months to catch up.  The accuracy of the files was 
sadly deficient initially.  I'd say that, as from October 1950, we were
pretty well up to speed as to processing changes and accuracy by the 
fall 1951.

Of course, some units were worse than others.  Some had to hold physical
musters to find out who was there. Some units disappeared in the Chinese
intervention and had to have the records reconstituted later.  Very 
difficult.

I am still in touch with several other members of the 25th MRU.  It was 
my first permanent military organization and I have a soft spot in my 
heart for it and for the guys in it.  There have been a couple of 
reunions which I could not attend.  I've received pictures from the 
reunions, though.

Wouldn't recognize anyone.